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Jimmy Carter Former president of the United States Jimmy Carter (pictured) dies at the age of 100. Jeju Air Flight 2216 crashes at Muan International Airport, South Korea, killing 179 people. Acting president and prime minister of South Korea Han Duck-soo is impeached by the National Assembly. Former prime minister of India Manmohan Singh dies at the age of 92. Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of Lebanon Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Charles Dolan Richard Perry Greg Gumbel Don Martina Joanne Pierce Misko Osamu Suzuki view — page history — related changes — edit

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December 30

Portal:Current events/2024 December 30

December 30, 2024 (2024-12-30) (Monday) Disasters and accidents Three tourists are killed and seven more injured during a fire at a hotel in Bangkok, Thailand. (AP) Scotland cancels Hogmanay celebrations due to weather warnings for rain snow and wind. (The Independent) Law and crime 2024 South Korean martial law crisis The Corruption Investigation Office for High-ranking Officials formally requests an arrest warrant for impeached South Korean president Yoon Suk Yeol over his declaration of martial law. (Reuters)

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Ethiopian Truck Crash

Article: Sidama truck crash (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ethiopian truck crash kills 71 people. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ 71 people die in an Ethiopian truck crash
Alternative blurb II: ​ A truck falls off a bridge in Bona Zuria, Sidama Region, Ethiopia, killing 71 people and injuring 4 others.
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

• Nominated by Alexgmail2000 (talk · give credit)

• Oppose Article is a stub. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:14, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

• It is no longer a stub, I believe. Ca ^{talk to me!} 14:07, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  I still believe it is a stub / article needs expansion. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 16:39, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  Someone with local sources to help us? ArionStar (talk) 17:38, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article is decent and significant as the Minas Gerais road crash. The year 2024 is ending very badly. ArionStar (talk) 12:56, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
• Is "disaster" the right word for the article name? the sources seem to leave it as "accident" even with a toll that high? --Masem (t) 13:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  Like Madan Ashrit Highway disaster and Westdene dam disaster. ArionStar (talk) 13:17, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  The move from truck crash to this new title was not discussed and should be reverted. "Try to avoid the words disaster, tragedy and crisis because this characterization is too subjective. It is preferable to use specific event names, such as collision, collapse, explosion, outbreak, pandemic, sinking, oil spill, and the like."

  Also Oppose on quality and sourcing.

  Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 16:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  I moved the article. Ca ^{talk to me!} 16:38, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support The article significant because of many sources reported it numerous times. AsteriodX (talk) 15:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support on notabilty, Wait on quality, hopefully the article will improve eventually. ExclusiveEditor _{🔔 Ping Me!} 17:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support What is it with disasters this week? Setarip (talk) 17:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

December 29

Portal:Current events/2024 December 29

December 29, 2024 (2024-12-29) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Syrian civil war Fall of the Assad regime Syrian mass graves Three mass graves associated with the Assad regime are discovered in Al-Qabou, Homs Governorate. (SOHR) Operation Dawn of Freedom The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reports that a humanitarian crisis has developed in Manbij District following its capture by Turkish-backed Syrian National Army (SNA) forces and Turkish artillery fire, leading to continuous water scarcity, power outages, and basic needs shortages. (SOHR) Sudanese civil war Battle of Khartoum Seven civilians are killed and several others are injured in a Sudanese Armed Forces strike on residential areas in the southern part of Khartoum, Sudan. (Sudan Tribune) Disasters and accidents Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243 Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev says that Russia accidentally shot down the Azerbaijan Airlines plane, accusing Russia of trying to "hush up" the crash, and demanding from Russia a full admission of guilt, punishment for those responsible, and compensation for the victims. (AP) Gelana Bridge disaster At least 71 people are killed and four injured when a passenger-carrying truck drives off a bridge into a river in Bona Zuria, Sidama Region, Ethiopia. (The Guardian) (Voice of America) Jeju Air Flight 2216 A Bangkok-departed Jeju Air Boeing 737-800 with 181 people on board crashes during landing at the Muan International Airport, in South Korea, killing 179 people and wounding two crew members. (Bloomberg) (Yna) (Euronews) Three police officers are killed and two others are injured in a gas explosion at the police academy in Cairo, Egypt. (Reuters) Two pilots are killed when their light aircraft crashes into the sea near Ras Al Khaimah, United Arab Emirates, shortly after takeoff from Al Jazeirah Airport. (Inquirer.net) A tourist is killed and another is injured in a shark attack at a resort in Marsa Alam, Egypt. (Al Arabiya) English Channel migrant crisis Three migrants die attempting to cross the English Channel, with 45 rescued and treated for hypothermia and four hospitalized. (BBC News) International relations Cambodia–Philippines relations Cambodia pardons and repatriates 13 Filipino women who were convicted of human trafficking for participating in a surrogacy scheme prohibited under Cambodian law. (ABC News) Politics and elections 2024 Chadian parliamentary election Voters in Chad elect the 188 members of the National Assembly. (Al Jazeera) 2024 Croatian presidential election Croatians vote to elect the President between incumbent Zoran Milanović and seven other candidates. (Reuters) 2024 Georgian post-election protests Mikheil Kavelashvili is inaugurated as the 6th President of Georgia, with outgoing president Salome Zourabichvili announcing that she would vacate her residence at the Orbeliani Palace in Tbilisi. Zourabichvili continues to claim that the new presidency is illegitimate and calls for continued protests. (Politico) (AP) Death and state funeral of Jimmy Carter Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter dies at the age of 100 in Plains, Georgia, United States. (BBC News)

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(Posted blurb and closed) RD/Blurb Jimmy Carter

Article: Jimmy Carter (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Former American president and Nobel Peace Prize laureate Jimmy Carter dies at the age of 100 (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Former United States president and Nobel Peace Prize laureate Jimmy Carter dies at the age of 100.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Former president of the United States and Nobel Peace Prize laureate Jimmy Carter dies at the age of 100.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Nobel Peace laureate and former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, behind the campaign to eradicate dracunculiasis, dies at 100.
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Nableezy (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

• Definite Support No questions about it, as a former president and humanitarian that recently passed away. He a left lasting legacy and impact on the world. -- Rager7 (talk)
• Support blurb - obviously. No quality concerns as its a GA. --estar8806 (talk) ★ 21:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb The death of a former US President is notable, and the story is being reported by basically every source. Gust Justice (talk) 21:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Strong support blurb - A bit more of an update is needed, and a few floating "is" etc are still about, but obviously this should be a blurb. Departure– (talk) 21:16, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

These seem to have been fixed. Mooonswimmer 21:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Strong support - Death of a former president. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 21:21, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Strong support blurb Oldest former U.S. president ever and it's a GA. - Sebbog13 (talk) 21:23, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Strong support blurb Oldest former U.S. president ever and it's a GA. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 21:23, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Strong Support blurb - I've been vocal about the US-bias of many nominations here. But this is a no-brainer. Nfitz (talk) 21:24, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Strong support blurb This should be an uncontroversial one. No quality concerns. May he rest in peace.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 21:28, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support blurb no brainer, article is in good shape Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 21:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb, Normally against US-bias but I think this is a fairly straightforward yes to a blurb here. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 21:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Strong support blurb with picture - extraordinarily influential figure, especially given his prolonged and impactful post-presidential career. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Strong support blurb Article is updated and a GA. Mooonswimmer 21:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Posted blurb charlotte ^👸🎄 21:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  Is it a caching error? I don't see it. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 21:34, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  It should be there now. I couldn't see it earlier either. Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:38, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support blurb per above. Grimes2 (talk) 21:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Strong support blurb/picture blurb GA article of a significant U.S. president. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 21:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Added altblurb2 -- AFAICT we usually say "president of X" not "X president", e.g. right now with Manmohan Singh. Giraffer (talk) 21:33, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks for the correction! 31.44.227.152 (talk) 21:38, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Strong support I think it's pretty evident; rest well. Nishi (talk 21:37, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Strong support blurb with picture, but suggest the following expansion to honor what he described as his most important legacy:

  Nobel Peace laureate and former U.S. President Jimmy Carter, behind the campaign to eradicate dracunculiasis, dies at 100.

  – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 21:43, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  Weak oppose only the part mentioning dracunculiasis, since it's only briefly mentioned once in the target article. Support everything else. Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  I'm adding more; it's probably his most important work in terms of overall impact, but nobody's heard of it. Carter, along with Viktor Zhdanov, is probably one of two human beings who can claim credit for eradicating a major disease. – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 21:59, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  (BTW this isn't me saying this, it's Carter—seeing them dead was his last wish.) – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 01:29, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

• Post-posting - charlotte, would you be willing to also add "Nobel laureate" to the blurb, as suggested by the blurbs listed? Staraction (talk | contribs) 21:44, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  I don't think him being a Nobel laureate is significant enough (relative to him being president) to include in the blurb, but happy to add it/have it added if consensus here/one of the ITN admins think it should be there. charlotte ^👸🎄 22:06, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  That was the blurb supported by everybody? nableezy - 22:07, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality (but its been posted so too late for this) - the article does not provide a reason why he was a great or major figure - even though I know this should be the case. The Legacy section addresses his mediocere presidency but does not touch on his post-presidency efforts which is where this factor is coming from. I know this can be made, either from existing sources or from the obits coming out, but this should really be in place, a crystal clear section for reader to review of why a person was posted as a blurb on death, rather than all the hand-waving that is going on. Also, we should not be assuming that every former world leader should be blurbed. Masem (t) 21:52, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  Your wishes are demanding. Support addition of Nobel Prize laureate, only presidents Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Barack Obama, Al Gore (Vice) are recipients. Grimes2 (talk) 22:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  The final paragraph of the lede & the lengthy Post-presidency (1981–2024) section do a fine enough job articulating his post-presidency efforts that opposing posting altogether is a bit much. That said, there is a lot of information in Post-presidency of Jimmy Carter which could be used to further expand the section on his main biographical page.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 22:35, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  The statement in the lede "but his post-presidency period (the longest in U.S. history) has received near-universal praise, including a Nobel Peace Prize in 2002." is not directly supported by sources in the bio article, though I'm sure the post-presidency article has that. This is a quality issue that should have been addressed before posting; I'm not doubting this, but absence of this type of information with sources on the main bio page is a problem even if that seems apparently obvious. Masem (t) 04:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

• Post-posting support RIP. Davey2116 (talk) 22:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support for it being posted. Storied career, amazing, that he had such long marriage. BilboBeggins (talk) 22:57, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Post-posting support, at least he made it to 100. Sahaib (talk) 23:38, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Can Nobel laureate be added to the blurb as the nomination that all the support votes at the time of posting were referencing? Carters post-presidency is widely regarded as a defining trait of his life. nableezy - 03:05, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support addition of Nobel laureate, as this is prominently noted, often in the headlines, for major media sources covering this death. BD2412 T 03:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
• Post-posting support: Rest in peace to an incredible man, while not the most spectacular during his presidency, he definitely shaped a shining legacy after leaving office. Carter will continue to live on as one of the most memorable presidents the United States has ever had. Tofusaurus (talk) 03:54, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
• Post-posting support Article is in good shape, has been updated to the bone and Carter is an example of what warrants a death blurb. Remarkable legacy, treated harshly by history. Rest well, to a great humanitarian and humble being. Support adding Nobel to blurb I mean, he's also a nobel winner and most obits are including his laureate status to their headlines as well. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 08:39, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
• Added Nobel laureate. charlotte ^👸🎄 08:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  @Queen of Hearts: please could you revert this. You were correct in your comment above. There is a standard format for death blurbs, particularly of former leaders, and we don't usually "editorialise" in ITN blurbs. Him being the preskdent is the reason he's blurbed rather than his Nobel prize, and it should simply state that, in the same way as the former Indian PM further down. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 08:54, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  That isn’t editorializing and since when did we substitute an admins judgment over consensus for a blurb? nableezy - 09:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  It's totally editorializing. Inserting fluff about Carter winning a Nobel prize that isn't really relevant to the story of his death. To maintain NPOV and avoid bias at ITN, we stick to a standard blurb format for all politician deaths rather than going with bespoke wording for individuals that people happen to like, based on whatever random WP:LOCALCONSENSUS forms. Henry Kissinger also won a Nobel prize, but our blurb on him made no mention of that, so why the difference here? Admins are precisely supposed to use their judgment in these matters, as indeed charlotte did above, that's always been part of the remit.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:57, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  I have to agree with Amakuru, no need to add extra honours when its the office that he held that the vast majority of the world know him for. We didn't list Singh with his Indian of the Year or his Adam Smith awards so why do we need to further decorate Carter when President is prestigious enough. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 11:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  Removed the Nobel. Stephen 12:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  To be fair, the Adam Smith Prize or the Indian of the Year honor is not even close to the Nobel Prize. When Kofi Annan died, we listed his Nobel honor into the blurb. Same with Shimon Peres. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 12:20, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  That isn’t fluff, and there isn’t any overriding consensus that you can point to to claim that this is a local one that can be ignored. This is one of his main legacies, his work for habitat for humanity and the Carter center are absolutely as notable as his presidency. It is not fluff, it is not editorializing, and that part of the main page is not the fiefdom of a few admins here. This should be restored and this discussions consensus respected. nableezy - 12:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  Every death blurb (for death by old age or other natural causes) leaves it as the principle profession that the person had, and avoids editorization. Definitely should not be adding "Nobel winner" here. — Masem (t) 13:09, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  And just to add, keeping the death blurb to just the profession prevents further bickering around the whole death blurb nomination aspect already. The inclusion of profession and profession only is a nice neutral way to present the blurb without trying to fight consensus on what other apsects to include. If the article is of good quality, other key factors (like Carter's humanitarism) should be identified within the lede. — Masem (t) 13:37, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  That isn’t true as demonstrated by the examples cited already. Whatever, this place doesn’t exactly abide by our rules anyway, what’s one more example? nableezy - 13:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  For the record, media reporting on the death widely reference the Nobel Prize in what would be the equivalent of our blurb. See:

  • Reuters: "Jimmy Carter, former US president and Nobel Peace Prize recipient, dead at 100"
  • ABC News leads with "Jimmy Carter, the former U.S. president known as a champion of international human rights both during and after his White House tenure and who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002 for his lifetime of dedication to that cause, has died at 100";
  • The Washington Post leads with "Jimmy Carter, a no-frills Southern governor with a mile-wide smile who was elected president in 1976 and served only one term before leading an extraordinary post-presidential life that included the Nobel Peace Prize, died Sunday at his home in Plains, Georgia...";
  • BBC News reports, "after leaving the White House with low approval ratings, his reputation was restored through humanitarian work which earned him the Nobel Peace Prize";
  • The Guardian reports that "Carter spent the decades afterward focused on international relations and human rights, efforts that won him the Nobel peace prize in 2002";
  • The Associated Press blurb on the subject says "Former President Jimmy Carter, a Nobel Peace Prize winner and the longest-living chief executive in U.S. history, has died".

  This is not fluff, this is the key fact. BD2412 T 17:37, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

• Post posting support blurb No brainer support for death of former head of state/government. News across the world, article is in fantastic shape. Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 13:57, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support inclusion of Nobel Prize and agree with other supporters above, his article quotes Polls of historians and political scientists generally rank Carter as a below-average president. Scholars and the public more favorably view his post-presidency, and winning a noble prize precisely shows this with other things. It may seem editorializing to few, but many disagree. ExclusiveEditor _{🔔 Ping Me!} 17:18, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
• Comment This was closed, who reopened it? Can someone re-close it? Further blurb deliberation should be at WP:ERRORS. Departure– (talk) 17:56, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Remove Ongoing: 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon

Article: 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)

Nominator's comments: The Ongoing section would benefit from some shortening, and this item seems like the best candidate for removal. The Israeli incursion in Lebanon is not in the news anymore (and the last event mentioned in the article dates back to 17 Dec). This is in contrast to the war in Gaza, or Israel's actions in Yemen, which are much more prominently covered in global news. Khuft (talk) 19:52, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Strong oppose the only reason nothing is happening is because the 2024 Israel–Lebanon ceasefire agreement is in place. However than will end soon as it is only a 60 day ceasefire. 22:33, 29 December 2024 (UTC) History6042😊 (Contact me) 22:33, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  If it ends and the war restarts, we post again PrecariousWorlds (talk) 07:44, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: Im wondering if maybe we need to do a () next to Israel-Hamas war with all of the other Middle East battles that are also involving Israel, like Lebanon, Yemen, Syria, so on. TheCorriynial (talk) 20:36, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

There was a recent suggestion to include the entire listing of conflicts in the Middle East, but the problem is that they are not all directly related. While we can point to the Israel-Lebonon conflict as directly related to the Israel-Hamas one, events in Yemen or Syria are absolutely not part of that. That makes it all synthesis to combine them all. --Masem (t) 21:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support removing, no updates recently. BilboBeggins (talk) 22:11, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support removing This is no longer hot, as indicated by lack of recent updates. There are low intensity incidents happening and might continue for months, but does not justify "Ongoing". Tradedia^talk 02:31, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Strong oppose not only has Israel violated the ceasefire almost every single day its been in force, but there is no signs that they are going to continue the ceasefire after its 60 days. Scuba 15:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Ongoing is not about if the event is still going on, but if the target article or an appropriate subarticle has been receiving updates, which has not been happening here. — Masem (t) 15:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Houston Tornado Outbreak

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Tornado outbreak of December 28–29, 2024 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Tornado outbreak in the Houston Area killing 2 people and injuring many others (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ 2 people dead after tornado outbreak in the Houston area

• Support but with a completely reworded blurb. Three or more are dead, so the blurb is innacurate. How about "At least three people are killed during a widespread tornado outbreak across the Southern United States." I oppose adding an image as of now.

Meh. oppose per below. E_F⁵ 20:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose. Seems pretty minor, hard to find coverage outside the US media. Nfitz (talk) 20:44, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Strong oppose - not important overall. @EF5: we hardly post tornado outbreaks on ITN, and the smallest one I think that got posted was Rolling Fork's outbreak. The most recent was March 31, 2023, and almost every outbreak since then (with the possible exceptions of May 25 and April 26) have been well below the bar of importance for ITN. I'll add conditional weak support if the record-breaking claim of the Port Arthur tornado's duration is confirmed, but I highly doubt that. Departure– (talk) 20:56, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Not significant, at least not yet. Very minor. Setarip (talk) 20:57, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The oddness here is how late in the year this came, likely a result of global warming, but even with that, the relatively small death toll makes this a minor outbreak in the larger scheme of things. --Masem (t) 21:00, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  Late-season outbreaks have always happened. We posted the last big December outbreak (the one in Kentucky, USA) on merit as an outbreak, not based on climate change. I couldn't tell you why actual climate-change related blurbs (such as the yearly "hottest day in history" blurbs) never get posted. Departure– (talk) 21:03, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  Because as long as there's little progress to stall climate change by major nations, these records are always going to get broken year after year. And the 2021 outbreak was likely posted due to the high death toll (70+). — Masem (t) 22:23, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose Tragic, but it’s a typical tornado outbreak. Two deaths is very small compared to very notable tornado outbreaks like the 2011 Super Outbreak. INeedSupport 🎄 21:51, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

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2024 Georgian constitutional crisis

Article: 2024 Georgian constitutional crisis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ 2024 Georgian constitutional crisis continues with Mikheil Kavelashvili inaugurated and Salome Zourabichvili claiming to remain President. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ 2024 Georgian constitutional crisis continues with Mikheil Kavelashvili inaugurated while Salome Zourabichvili says she remains President.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Amidst opposition protests, Mikheil Kavelashvili inaugurated President of Georgia.
Alternative blurb III: ​ A governmental crisis occurs in Georgia, as Mikheil Kavelashvili is inaugurated as president while incumbent Salome Zourabichvili intends to remain in office.
News source(s): Al Jazeera; The Guardian; Associated Press; BBC
Credits:

• Created and nominated by Boud (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: The 2024 Georgian post-election protests that have accompanied this crisis have been ongoing daily for two months with the biggest participation estimated at around 100,000 people - several percent of the total Georgian population. Boud (talk) 11:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Comment The expression "claiming that" is a bit WP:WEASELly; and Salome Zourabichvili stating that she retains her legitimacy as President would be more neutral, avoiding the connotation that Wikipedia is sceptical about her POV. I've added altblurb which seems less weaselly to me. Boud (talk) 11:58, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Ongoing? The nomination is not clear whether it's proposing this as an ongoing entry. Many other places have ongoing political tensions and rivalries so I reckon we need some big incident or civil war for this to stand out. Andrew🐉(talk) 12:07, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  The event itself - the overall crisis - is ongoing, but the Western mainstream media news coverage is not intense enough to justify ongoing in the ITN sense. This is not a proposal for ITN "Ongoing". In terms of the wording, it would be inaccurate to suggest that today's inauguration was a sudden crisis - it's a key symbolic event within the overall crisis - so "continuing" in the blurb is accurate. Boud (talk) 12:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Definitely has more encyclopedic value than the electoral college vote a few weeks earlier. Depending on how the world reacts, it could be a repeat of the 2019 Venezuelan presidential crisis. Scaramouche33 (talk) 13:59, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose There is a similar Ongoing constitutional crisis in Somalia, WP:ITNUPDATE. QalasQalas (talk) 16:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  Response Somalia has been in a civil war for decades now, it has gotten its place in the spotlight but has faded away with time. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 19:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• strong weak support altblurb2 came here to nominate it, glad to see I was beaten to it. The inauguration is perhaps more important than the non-popular election itself with the repercussions per Scaramouche33 (day-before form PM and GD leader was sanctioned with many other by the state department). What the now former president claims is not relevant encyclopaedically/ITN. It is for the sub-article/s though. She'll likely be arrested before the new year if not tonight. It's 21:15 atm. Doesn't seem like much more than western msm blather quoting a french woman, she has left the presidential palace, despite claiming there is a train there and who will move her.Sportsnut24 (talk) 17:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  Support Definitely something to take note of. Additionally, I suspect Russia might invade Georgia again, to prop up the Dream Party. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 19:14, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support altblurb 3 per above. Added altblurb 3. Departure– (talk) 21:01, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

oppose altblurb3 she has left the presidential palace. She cannot conduct an enforeceable actions such as signing bills.Sportsnut24 (talk) 21:47, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support No one knows who the president of georgia is now, but it is an inauguration Setarip (talk) 21:01, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

everybody knows who the new prez is after being sworn in with his predecessor leaving the presidential palace.Sportsnut24 (talk) 21:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Leaving Orbeliani Palace has some but not much significance; it's not the presidential palace, it's a presidential palace; Zourabichvili was the first president to reside there: "Salome Zurabishvili to relocate Presidential Residence from Avlabari to Orbeliani Palace", 29 Nov 2018. Boud (talk) 01:41, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Important enough in the context of cold war between East and West. Georgia is one of the battlegrounds. Tradedia^talk 02:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
• Weak support Article is a bit short for a leadership dispute of this magnitude, but it's good enough for posting. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 08:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  Support Per TDKR. ArionStar (talk) 13:54, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Jeju Air Flight 2216

Article: Jeju Air Flight 2216 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A Jeju Air Boeing 737-800 crashes at Muan International Airport, South Korea, after hitting a fence while attempting to land with 47 casualties reported out of 181 passengers on board. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ At least 47 people are killed when a Jeju Air plane carrying 181 passengers crashed at Muan International Airport in South Korea.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Jeju Air Flight 2216 crashes at Muan International Airport, South Korea, killing at least 47.
News source(s): (Bloomberg)
Credits:

• Nominated by QalasQalas (talk · give credit)
• Created by Dora the Axe-plorer (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I think it needs a bit of work.

• Support Absolutely horrific footage, definitely worthy of the front page. --MaximumMangoCloset (talk) 02:52, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support holiday season is deadly this year. ArionStar (talk) 02:08, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  Terrible year for Korea PrecariousWorlds (talk) 11:06, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Absolutely three deadly crashes within a month. QalasQalas (talk) 02:17, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support A no brainer, major plane crash with dozens of fatalities. JDiala (talk) 02:18, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support Alt Blurb III Article probably needs its quality improved, but absolutely a notable event. RandomInfinity17 (talk - contributions) 02:29, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support Alt Blurb II in line with the Flight 8243. Also, the death toll has reportly risen to 47. Unnamelessness (talk) 02:42, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support Considering that if the death count ends up being over 132 it will have been the deadliest crash since 2020, this is quite a major incident and it deserves to be here. (offtopic but why was both the start and end of this year so bad for aviation?) interstatefive  02:44, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support could become the deadliest crash this year with 178 possible fatalities and its already the second deadliest. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 9:49 PM, 28 December 2024 (EST)
• Strong Support Dozens of fatalities have been found. Major news coverage. Article is a bit short but that is because there is no conclusive info yet, as the incident happened three hours ago. Wildfireupdateman (talk) 9:49 PM, 28 December 2024 (EST)
• Support seems to have extensive coverage from South Korean News sources, some western sources are also picking up on the accident. Yosh56 (talk) 10:02 PM. 28 December 2024 (EST)
• Strong support altblurb 2. For a new disaster article less than half an hour old it's of fantastic quality. This might be less geopolitically important than the crash in Kazakhstan but the human toll is telling. Departure– (talk) 03:03, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Altburlb II Fatality numbers can be updated via WP:ERRORS#Errors with "In the news". – robertsky (talk) 03:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

December 28

Portal:Current events/2024 December 28

December 28, 2024 (2024-12-28) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Winter of 2024–25 in the Gaza Strip, Gaza Strip evacuations The Gaza Strip Government Media Office reports that 110,000 out of 135,000 tents used as shelters by displaced Palestinians have "completely deteriorated" and are now unusable due to strong winter winds and heavy rainfall. (Al Jazeera) Syrian civil war Western Syria clashes Syria's new government announces "a large-scale sweep operation" in Latakia to arrest or eliminate all remaining pro-Assad insurgents and any threats to national security. (Al Jazeera) 2024 Afghanistan–Pakistan skirmishes Afghanistan's Ministry of Defense announces that they targeted several locations in Pakistan in retaliation for Pakistani aircraft conducting aerial bombardments within Afghanistan. (Al Jazeera) Business and economy Homelessness in the United States U.S. homelessness hits a record high in 2024, increasing by more than 18% in the past year, primarily due to high housing costs, natural disasters, and an increase in migration to major cities. (BBC News) Disasters and accidents Juscelino Kubitschek de Oliveira Bridge collapse The death toll from the highway collapse between Maranhão and Tocantins, Brazil, six days ago, increases to eleven, with six others still missing. (Correio Braziliense) Tornado outbreak of December 26–29, 2024 At least two people are killed in a tornado outbreak across the southern United States, with damage reported near Houston, Texas. (USA Today) International relations Lukoil oil transit dispute, Ukrainian energy crisis, Slovakia–Ukraine relations Slovakia threatens reciprocal measures against Ukraine's plans to suspend the transit of Russian oil to Slovakia on January 1, including suspending electricity supplies. In response, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy accuses Slovakia of opening a "second energy front" against Kyiv under Moscow's orders. (Al Jazeera) Law and crime The Afghanistan's Taliban government bans windows overlooking to places "used by women", and says that existing ones should be blocked. (RFI) Politics and elections 2024 Mozambican general election 2024 Mozambican protests At least 13,000 Mozambicans flee the country into Malawi amid widespread civil unrest due to the results of the recent general election. (DW) 2024 South Korean martial law crisis Impeachment of Han Duck-soo, Impeachment of Yoon Suk Yeol Impeached South Korean president Yoon Suk Yeol is accused of ordering the authorization of the use of live firearms to stop MPs from overriding the martial law vote and to force the MPs out of the National Assembly legislature building. (BBC News)

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RD: Kari Dziedzic

Article: Kari Dziedzic (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ‘’Minnesota Public Radio’’
Credits:

• Nominated by Malvoliox (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Sitting Minnesota state senator and former majority leader, hoping to expand the article a little/add electoral history and more details about political work, but also want to make sure we can clean up any issues with citations etc. that I didn’t catch. ~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 14:50, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• @Malvoliox, the better source needed tag should ideally be resolved. Otherwise, support. charlotte ^👸🎄 01:38, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Replaced the bad source with a reliable recent one that details the case. ~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 15:01, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Charles Dolan

Article: Charles Dolan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:9DCE:E014:DC2:B389 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American billionaire businessman, founder of Cablevision and HBO. 240F:7A:6253:1:9DCE:E014:DC2:B389 (talk) 07:38, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support, article is well-cited and I don't see any quality issues. Unknown-Tree🌲? (talk) 22:35, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support, article is long enough and well-sourced, with no apparent issues. Could use some spot verification. Mooonswimmer 01:00, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
• Posted charlotte ^👸🎄 01:43, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

December 27

Portal:Current events/2024 December 27

December 27, 2024 (2024-12-27) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Somali Civil War Constitutional crisis in Somalia Ethiopian–Somali conflict, 2024 Ethiopia–Somaliland memorandum of understanding The United Nations Security Council approves the Resolution 2767 deployment of the African Union Support and Stabilization Mission in Somalia (AUSSOM), effective January 1, replacing the current African Union Transition Mission in Somalia. However, Somalia rejects Ethiopia's participation in AUSSOM amid tensions over a memorandum of understanding that Ethiopia signed with Somaliland in January. Somalia considers the memorandum a violation of its sovereignty and has instead asked Egypt to contribute troops to the mission. (Reuters) (Idil News) (UNSC) Israel–Hamas war Kamal Adwan Hospital sieges Israeli forces forcibly evacuate the Kamal Adwan hospital in northern Gaza. (BBC News) Russian invasion of Ukraine North Korean involvement in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, 2024 Kursk offensive South Korea confirms the first capture of a North Korean soldier fighting against Ukrainian forces in Kursk Oblast, Russia, with the soldier later dying from his injuries. (BBC News) (Reuters) 2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions, 2024 Estlink 2 incident NATO announces that it will increase its presence in the Baltic Sea in response to the suspected sabotage of Estlink submarine power cables. (Reuters) Estonia deploys its navy to protect its remaining Estlink submarine power cable following the failure of Estlink 2. (BBC News) Red Sea crisis The Houthis launch a ballistic missile from Yemen, targeting Ben Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv, Israel. The missile is intercepted before reaching Israeli airspace. It is the first time that the THAAD missile defense system is used by Israel to intercept a missile during combat operations. (The Times of Israel) (The Guardian) Houthi-run state television reports that American and British airstrikes have targeted the Ma'ain District of Sanaa, Yemen. No casualties are reported. (Anadolu Agency) Israeli–Palestinian conflict A 83-year-old Israeli woman and Holocaust survivor is fatally stabbed by a Palestinian former Shin Bet informant from the West Bank in Herzliya, Israel; the attacker was then shot and injured by police. (The Times of Israel) Business and economy Medog Hydropower Station China announces the formal approval of a proposal to construct the world's largest hydropower dam on the Yarlung Tsangpo river in Tibet. (BBC News) Disasters and accidents Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243 Azerbaijan Airlines suspends flights to seven cities in Russia following the crash of Flight 8243 on Wednesday, amid allegations that the plane had been hit by a Russian surface-to-air missile. (DW) United States National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby says that there is evidence that Russia shot down the Azerbaijan Airlines flight. (The Hill) Kazakhstan and Israel suspend flights over Russian airspace in response to the Azerbaijan Airlines crash. (Politico) A traffic collision between a truck and a bus kills eight people and injures 27 others in Veracruz, Mexico. (AP) Health and environment 2023–2024 mpox epidemic Kosovo reports its first case of mpox in a 30-year-old man who travelled to Africa. (Reuters) International relations Georgia–United States relations The U.S. State Department announces sanctions against Bidzina Ivanishvili, the billionaire founder of the Georgian Dream political party. Georgian prime minister Irakli Kobakhidze accuses the United States of "blackmail" over the move. (BBC News) (Al Arabiya) Syria–Ukraine relations, Grain From Ukraine program Ukraine announces that it has sent a shipment of 500 tonnes of wheat to Syria after Russia suspended shipments following the fall of the Assad regime. (The Kyiv Independent) Senegalese prime minister Ousmane Sonko announces the closure of all foreign military bases in the country, citing a decision by President Bassirou Diomaye Faye to remove foreign troops as part of a broader shift away from colonial-era military arrangements. (AP) Law and crime 2024 Zhuhai car attack, Capital punishment in China A Chinese court sentences the perpetrator of the car attack in Zhuhai that killed 35 people to death. (AP) Argentina–Venezuela relations, Conservative wave Venezuelan attorney general Tarek William Saab announces an investigation into a previously detained Argentine National Gendarmerie non-commissioned officer for alleged links to right-wing terrorism. (Reuters) The Montenegrin Minister of Justice approves the extradition of cryptocurrency entrepreneur Do Kwon to the United States over fraud allegations resulting from the collapse of the Terra and Luna tokens. (BBC News) Politics and elections 2024 South Korean martial law crisis Impeachment of Han Duck-soo South Korean prime minister and acting president Han Duck-soo is impeached by the National Assembly after refusing to appoint three Constitutional Court judges chosen by the Assembly to oversee president Yoon Suk Yeol's impeachment case. Finance minister Choi Sang-mok is appointed acting president and acting prime minister. (BBC News) (Reuters) 2024 German government crisis, 2025 German federal election, Scholz cabinet German president Frank-Walter Steinmeier dissolves the Bundestag and schedules new elections for February 23 after Chancellor Olaf Scholz's coalition collapses and no parliamentary majority emerges to form a stable government. (AP)

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RD: Charlie Maxwell

Article: Charlie Maxwell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Detroit Free Press
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by cbl62 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American baseball outfielder (1947-1964), an All-Star in 1956 and 1957, known as "Sunday Charlie" and "The Sabbath Slugger" for his propensity to hit home runs on Sundays Cbl62 (talk) 23:48, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

RD: Olivia Hussey

Article: Olivia Hussey (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:C85F:CD98:861D:B7DF (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British-Argentine actress. 240F:7A:6253:1:C85F:CD98:861D:B7DF (talk) 03:12, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support, found two uncited claims, which I've added CN tags to. Article is fine otherwise. Support: CN issues now resolved. No more outstanding article issues from what I can see. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 11:34, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support Article in good shape, cn issues appear to have been solved. Yakikaki (talk) 18:52, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support per nom. --IDB.S (talk) 00:57, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Filmography sourcing needs improvement.—Bagumba (talk) 15:01, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Filmography needs ref work. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 08:43, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Greg Gumbel

Article: Greg Gumbel (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit) and CAWylie (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American sportscaster who called N.F.L. and N.C.A.A. games for CBS. Thriley (talk) 02:10, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Support First African-American sportscaster to call the Super Bowl. SigKauffman54 (talk) 16:16, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

That's not relevant here, only article quality is. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose for now due to justified orange tag for lack of citations. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Fixed up, support. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:48, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
• Not Quite Ready A handful of CN tags and there is currently no mention of his death in the body. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:25, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Support -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:39, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

• @Ad Orientem: & @Muboshgu: Article has been fixed up to shape. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article is now in good shape. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
• Posted charlotte ^👸🎄 01:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) Kamal Adwan hospital burning

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Article: Kamal Adwan Hospital sieges (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Israeli troops attack the Kamal Adwan hospital, the last one remaining in the northern Gaza Strip, forcing its staff and patients to leave (Post)
News source(s): Al-Jazeera, Associated Press
Credits:

• Nominated by Vice regent (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: I know there's a daily tragedy in the Israel-Hamas war, but this is significant development given that its the last functioning one in northern Gaza Strip and hospitals have been a critical lifeline for Gazans. Further, burning down much of the hospital[2] is fairly unprecedented even in this brutal war. Feel free to suggest alternative blurbs. VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 20:38, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose basically covered by ongoing; I don't see how this one specific event is that significant to bring out of that. Just more to add onto the pile of war crime charges that international courts have against Israel here. --Masem (t) 20:47, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Masem. The Kip ^(contribs) 22:00, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Oppose Covered by ongoing. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 02:10, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Already covered by ongoing, and is just one of many war crimes already done by Israel. By far the biggest one done. Setarip (talk) 13:22, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Sad but not a major event of the war. ArionStar (talk) 19:37, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

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(Posted) Impeachment of Han Duck-soo

Articles: Impeachment of Han Duck-soo (talk · history · tag) and Han Duck-soo (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Acting President of South Korea and Prime minister, Han Duck-soo (pictured) is impeached by the National Assembly. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Acting President of South Korea and Prime minister, Han Duck-soo (pictured) is impeached by the National Assembly and is succeeded by Choi Sang-mok.
News source(s): BBC News, Reuters, South Korea National Assembly E-law Library KWNews (in Korean)
Credits:

• Nominated by Haers6120 (talk · give credit)
• Created by Queen of Hearts (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit)

One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Impeachement of Acting President of South Korea is unprecedented, and deputy prime minister will be both acting President and acting Prime Minister will also unprecedented. I also feel that we may need an ongoing article title like "2024-2025 South Korea Political Crisis" Haers6120 (talk) 06:58, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

UPDATE: Han seems accept National Assembly's decision [3]. Haers6120 (talk) 08:03, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support charlotte ^👸🎄 08:03, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality the direct cause 2024 South Korean martial law crisis and the subsequent protests are buried deep in the article rather than in the lede and the article goes at length about procedural matters which is great but it's missing all the other context. Furthermore the martial law and protest articles should really be in the blurb. An event infobox would be nice too. Abcmaxx (talk) 08:06, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  we could nominate a seperate ongoing article if needed. Haers6120 (talk) 08:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  I disagree that your concerns are enough to oppose on quality, but I will try to work on this. Already added an infobox. charlotte ^👸🎄 08:27, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support --Takipoint123 (talk) 08:05, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose SK's government seems to be gridlocked and this impeachment just seems to be a procedural tactic which passed easily because only a simple majority was required as this was considered a ministerial-level matter. It reminds me of the difficulty in getting a stable Speaker of the US House. It's internal politics and there's more to come before they are out of the woods. Other countries such as France and Germany have similar issues and so we should have a fairly high bar for posting. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:14, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support significant news from the crisis Setarip (talk) 11:39, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support Change of head of state and effective executive of the nation. And isn't this ITNR? Gotitbro (talk) 11:48, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

I don't think it's ITNR, because Han was explicitly only the acting president, and is in his turn only suspended and not deposed. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:52, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Well the nom is listed as such and I don't think our ITNR rules for heads of state/government (state leaders) have ever been that granular to exclude such changes [of acting versus normally elected/appointed].

Also, I think we need to appreciate the difference between those countries where single state leaders hold effective power (South Korea) versus where where power distribution maybe more shared (France, Germany that have been cited here). Gotitbro (talk) 15:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

• Weak oppose - Clearly the first impeachment following the attempt to declare martial law was major. Following that impeachment and resignation, the role of acting president fell to the PM, which was not meant to be a long-term determination. This impeaching is a result of more political infighting, and nothing specifically that Duck-soo did, and far less impactful than the original impeachment. Its basically a game of partisan musical chairs, since now the finance minister becomes next in line as acting president. --Masem (t) 13:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support altblurb Notable event. Han is the first acting president is the country's history to be impeached. This is a significant update from the fallout of the martial law crisis. Also, the altblurb is best as it illustrates the change in power so to speak. Article is in good shape too. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 13:31, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Weak oppose - While this is significant, it's part of the continuing crisis. As Andrew notes correctly, France and Germany are also both experiencing unstable government at the moment, and we're not posting blow-by-blow accounts of those to ITN, but only the substantive changes at the top. South Korea's situation, while a bit more volatile, is broadly similar. GenevieveDEon (talk) 13:52, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

• France and Germany are bad analogies in this case, not least because South Korea's case already involves an attempted self-coup and two impeachments. Though I ultimately agree that a third blurb about largely the same crisis might be too much, there may be merit in instead adding this to Ongoing (if it can be maintained). Yo.dazo (talk) 16:20, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Another successful impeachment? Really? Unprecedented event in the South Korea's history. ArionStar (talk) 16:18, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Support This is another major and unprecedented development in a situation that has already proven itself to be blurb-worthy on at least 2 occasions Rahcmander (talk) 16:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Support For this is unprecedented situation and technically change of head of state. Would oppose another impeachment (which is probable in less than a week) as per Andrew. Didgogns (talk) 18:33, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support per above. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:59, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support Nobody saw this coming This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk)
• Comment This is an extension of the initial coup. The root cause for both, is that for some reason I can't fathom, having a solid majority in the Parliament, doesn't give you any control of the government. Similar to the issues in the USA, but without the ability of the Parliament to pass legislation, or change the speaker. For some reason the party controlling the presidency and PM believe that letting the other party into power is some existential crisis - hence the extremes they'll go to (first illegally, and now legally). This will continue until a presidential election is triggered. I have no doubt the new acting President will be impeached quickly if he doesn't approve the nominations to the constitutional court. Perhaps South Korean Constitutional Crisis or something should be an ongoing? Nfitz (talk) 03:30, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

  Is there news coverage of the events of this happening near daily? Not really. Just because two events have happened within a month apart doesn't make it an ongoing story, and the ongoing line is far too busy as it is right now to add anything else, particularly something that isn't having near-daily stories. Masem (t) 04:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

  I've seen news reports several times a week since the coup, between the coup, and three impeachment votes. Nfitz (talk) 20:45, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Weak Support: This is just a greater part of the coup attempt by Yoon, but something I didn't see coming. TansoShoshen (talk) 10:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

@Admins willing to post ITN: I see consensus to post here. (I am of course far too involved to do it myself.) charlotte ^👸🎄 20:35, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

I agree that there's consensus. May I suggest that we wait half a day or so? I've just posted the Juscelino Kubitschek de Oliveira Bridge collapse and it sits in the bottom slot. If we were to post this item now, it'll nuke the bridge article after only a few minutes. Schwede66 20:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Fine with me. charlotte ^👸🎄 20:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Ah I didn't see this conversation before posting the Jeju crash up. The bridge collapse wasn't removed as today's Featured Article slot is just a tad longer. I am uncertain if we want to post up Han's image as it will be adjacent to the plane crash blurb. – robertsky (talk) 04:14, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Posted, lost the probe and kept the bridge collapse for a bit longer. Stephen 04:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

December 26

Portal:Current events/2024 December 26

December 26, 2024 (2024-12-26) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip, Killing of journalists in the Israel–Hamas war Five journalists of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad-affiliated Al Quds Today TV are killed in their vehicle by an Israeli airstrike near the Al-Awda Hospital in Deir al-Balah Governorate, Gaza. (CNN) (The Jerusalem Post) Winter of 2024–25 in the Gaza Strip, Gaza Strip evacuations Gaza Strip doctors report that three infants have died due to hypothermia from inadequate shelter in displacement camps amid a decrease in outdoor temperatures. (Al Jazeera) Red Sea crisis December 2024 Israeli airstrikes in Yemen Israel carries out a series of airstrikes between Sanaa and Hodeidah in Yemen, hitting a number of facilities, including Sanaa International Airport, and killing at least six people and injuring at least 40 others with the Director-General of the World Health Organization Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus present. (Al Jazeera) (Al Jazeera 2) (YNet) (BBC) Somali Civil War American military intervention in Somalia Al-Shabaab confirms the death of Mohamed Mire Jama, a senior leader of the group, who had been designated as a terrorist by the United States, in an American drone strike near Kunyo Baroow, Hirshabelle State, Somalia. (Idil News) (Garowe Online) (Long WaR Journal) Nigerian bandit conflict A Nigerian Air Force jet mistakenly kills ten civilians in Sokoto State, Nigeria, during a bombing raid targeting armed groups in the state, according to state governor Ahmad Aliyu. (Reuters) Business and economy 2021–present United Kingdom cost-of-living crisis The United Kingdom's Office for National Statistics announces that the UK economy showed no growth in the 3rd quarter of the current fiscal year, following downward revisions. (AP) Disasters and accidents Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243 Azerbaijani government officials tell Reuters that a Russian military surface-to-air missile launched from a Pantsir-S missile system was responsible for the Azerbaijan Airlines plane crash that killed 38 people yesterday. Officials also say that the aircraft's GPS navigation system was jammed during the flight. (Euronews) (Reuters) Azerbaijan MP Rasim Musabayov calls for an apology and accountability from Russia following their alleged involvement in the crash of the Azerbaijan Airlines flight. (United24Media) Azerbaijan Airlines says that they will provide compensation for the victims and families of those who died in the plane crash. (Trend) Hadsel bus accident Three people are killed and at least four others are injured when a bus carrying 58 people crashes into a lake in Hadsel Municipality, Norway. (BBC News) (NRK) Health and environment 2024 Lobitos oil spill The Government of Peru declares a 90-day environmental emergency for parts of Talara province due to an oil spill caused by state-owned oil company Petroperú. (Reuters) International relations 2024 Baltic Sea submarine cable disruptions, Finland–Russia relations 2024 Estlink 2 incident Finnish border guards and police detain a Russian vessel suspected of damaging the Estlink-2 submarine power cable yesterday. (AP) Law and crime A Cambodian court sentences the president of the opposition Nation Power Party Sun Chanthy to two years in prison and also bans Chanthy from running in elections for inciting civil disorder. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2024 South Korean martial law crisis Impeachment of Han Duck-soo South Korea's opposition files a motion to impeach prime minister and acting president Han Duck-soo, two weeks after president Yoon Suk Yeol was impeached. (BBC News) Death and state funeral of Manmohan Singh Former prime minister of India Manmohan Singh dies at age of 92. (The Times of India)

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RD: John B. Cobb

Article: John B. Cobb (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Claremont School of Theology
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit) and Mrlojo (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American theologian, philosopher and environmentalist. Death announced 27 December. Thriley (talk) 01:23, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

(Posted blurb) RD/Blurb: Manmohan Singh

Article: Manmohan Singh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Former Prime Minister of India Manmohan Singh (pictured) dies at the age of 92 (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, The Times of India
Credits:

• Nominated by Sportsnut24 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit) and Fylindfotberserk (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Potential blurb, but he's not sitting, so at least RD. Sportsnut24 (talk) 16:40, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Blurb He was one of the most influential individual of the modern Indian history and was the prime minister of India for a decade. The Degrees and posts held section needs some work but otherwise article is in good shape. ਪ੍ਰਿੰਸ ਆਫ਼ ਪੰਜਾਬ ^{(PrinceofPunjab | ਗੱਲਬਾਤ)} 17:19, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb Important and influential figure in modern India - he served 2 terms as PM and he was an important figure in liberating India's economy The AP (talk) 17:24, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
• Weak oppose on quality Article has some cn tags and there's a refimprove section tag at the end of the article. Once these issues are addressed, I would strongly support blurb seeing how Singh was a highly influential prime minister of India and a dominant figure in modern Indian politics. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 17:25, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
• General Support blurb as this is basically there in quality (I see a few noncritical tags but sourcing is basically there) and with the Public Image section, clearly outlines his status as a major figure on Indian politics. Masem (t) 17:26, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb One of few individuals who significantly shaped world history. As Finance Minister, brought accelerated economic growth to India that continues to this day and has helped raise standard of living for over a billion people and transformed global geopolitics. As Prime Minister, reduced rural poverty, brought India into global nuclear order, averted war in the aftermath of major terrorist attacks, and many other accomplishments. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 17:38, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb once outstanding CN tags are fixed. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 17:42, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

  Issues fixed @UndercoverClassicist: TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 17:46, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support blurb Long-serving, influential leader of a major nation. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:14, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb Unanimous support for blurb. Grimes2 (talk) 19:01, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb as per others above. -Abhishikt (talk) 19:03, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
• Posted blurb. charlotte ^👸🎄 19:18, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

  Death and state funeral of Manmohan Singh was created. ArionStar (talk) 12:19, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

December 25

Portal:Current events/2024 December 25

December 25, 2024 (2024-12-25) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip Siege of North Gaza, Gaza famine The United States-funded Famine Early Warning Systems Network removes a report estimating that food insecurity conditions in northern Gaza have surpassed the highest IPC famine thresholds, after the United States envoy to Israel criticized the report's methodology as "irresponsible" for "outdated" and "inflated" estimates of the civilian population of Gaza. (FEWS NET) (The Times of Israel) Somali Civil War Constitutional crisis in Somalia Jubaland crisis The federal government of Somalia imposes a flight ban on Jubaland, including all flights to and from Jubaland, particularly affecting the cities of Kismayo and Doolow. The flight ban was initiated amid ongoing political tensions and military engagements after Jubaland forces reportedly defeated Somali Armed Forces in several locations, including Ras Kamboni, Kulbiyow, and Dolow. (Garowe Online) (The Somali Digest) (The Eastleigh Voice) Russian invasion of Ukraine Russian strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure, Ukrainian energy crisis A series of Russian ballistic missile and drone strikes target critical energy infrastructure in cities across in Ukraine, killing at least two people, injuring 20 others, and causing widespread emergency blackouts. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy condemns Russian President Vladimir Putin for the "inhumane" attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure. (The Kyiv Independent) (The Guardian) (RTÉ) Sudanese civil war 2024 famine in Sudan The IPC Famine Review Committee determines the presence of famine in five areas in Darfur and South Kordofan, Sudan, and estimates that five more areas will face famine by May 2025 due to ongoing conflict and blocked aid distribution. (BBC News Hausa) Syrian civil war Western Syria clashes Syria's new government says that fourteen of its troops were killed and 10 others were injured in clashes with Assad regime loyalists in Tartus Governorate. (BBC News) (Reuters) Ethiopian civil conflict Ethiopian military forces close the country's border with Somalia following ongoing heavy fighting in rural areas of Harshin, Fafan Zone, between Ethiopia's Somali regional forces and local clan militias after the killing of a local security chief and his bodyguards. Hundreds of people, including children, flee from their homes. (Hiiraan Online) (Somali Guardian) Disasters and accidents Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243 An Azerbaijan Airlines Embraer 190 aircraft carrying 67 passengers from Baku, Azerbaijan, to Grozny, Russia, crashes while being diverted to Aktau, Kazakhstan, killing 38 people and injuring 29 others. (Al Jazeera) (NPR) Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev instructs the government to launch a criminal investigation into the crash. (Euronews) 2024 Estlink 2 incident HVDC submarine power cable Estlink 2, which connects the power grids of Estonia and Finland, suffers an unexplained outage with Finnish Prime Minister Petteri Orpo stating that an investigation into the incident is underway. (AP) International relations 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon Lebanon files a new complaint to the UN Security Council over Israel's ceasefire violations. (Bastille Post) Law and crime More than 1,500 inmates escape from a prison in Maputo, Mozambique, after knocking down a wall during a riot. At least 33 people are killed and 15 others are injured. (BBC News) (Al Jazeera) Syrian authorities impose a curfew from 6 pm to 8 am in Homs following a series of protests by Alawite and Shi'ite Muslim minority groups. (Reuters) A Turkish court sentences the owner and architect of the Grand Isias Hotel in Adıyaman to more than 18 years in prison for negligent homicide after 72 people died when the hotel collapsed in the 2023 earthquakes. (DW) Politics and elections 2025 Kosovan parliamentary election Kosovo's election appeals authority allows the Serb List party, a Serb ethnic party, to participate in the upcoming election, stating that the party meets legal certification requirements. (AP) Science and technology 2024 in archosaur paleontology Scientists confirm the discovery of the Alpkarakush kyrgyzicus dinosaur species in Kyrgyzstan, the first theropod from the Jurassic period to be discovered in Central Asia. (Tempo)

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RD: Jax Dane

Article: Jax Dane (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Wrestling Observer - Figure Four Online, Fightful, NWA
Credits:

• Nominated by The Kip (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American professional wrestler. Still needs a few citations, but honestly in pretty good shape compared to most wrestlers' articles. The Kip ^(contribs) 18:51, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Osamu Suzuki (businessman)

Article: Osamu Suzuki (businessman) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://apnews.com/article/japan-suzuki-motor-india-495bf88bbc55c2e96faa447a5b5806f0
Credits:

• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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 Japanese businessman, chairman of Suzuki Motor Corporation. --14:05, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article is in good shape, significant death. Setarip (talk) 17:16, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support Article in good shape indeed. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:07, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 13:44, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

RD: Paul Abine Ayah

Article: Paul Abine Ayah (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Actu Cameroun
Credits:

• Nominated by Jmanlucas (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and Dominus Moravian (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Cameroonian lawyer and politician. Jmanlucas (talk) 02:30, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

2024 Estlink 2 incident

Article: 2024 Estlink 2 incident (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The submarine power cable Estlink 2 is damaged by an oil tanker suspected of belonging to Russia. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Finnish police take over oil tanker Eagle S, suspected of damaging submarine power cable Estlink 2.
News source(s): https://yle.fi/a/74-20133526
Credits:

• Nominated by NotAGenious (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I'll try to combine https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Eagle_S_on_the_map_of_MarineTraffic,_in_relation_to_the_Estlink_2_incident.png with the cropped version of the Estlink map if I get a chance to do so. A significant event mentioned in multiple international news sources. NotAGenious (talk) 14:14, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose as it's yet clear the exact cause, whether intentional sabotage or something else. Just having massive reporting doesn't necessarily make it an appropriate WP topic since WP is not a newspaper. Masem (t) 16:31, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

  I disagree that finding an exact cause should be a requirement for appearing on the main page: the article, which has speculation from reliable sources, is useful by itself. NotAGenious (talk) 18:05, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose since it's not the first cable damaged in the area this past month and I doubt the impact will be anywhere near the Nord Stream sabotage in 2022. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 17:46, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:SPECULATION. Sorry, but we don’t post speculations.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:39, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

  it's confirmed that an outside force destroyed the cable, just the cause is under investigation NotAGenious (talk) 22:13, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support there's nothing speculative about an international sabotage incident that is an act of economic terrorism, and given the type of incident it is we may never know the full true story (just like in falsified elections for example), that shouldn't barr a posting though; WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS isn't a compelling argument either. Abcmaxx (talk) 23:20, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

  The blurb speculates that the incident was caused by a Russian oil tanker (this isn't even mentioned in the article). Furthermore, the article is in bad shape to demonstrate why this incident is significant.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:59, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  the article does mention it. NotAGenious (talk) 11:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  Now that it's improved, yes, but it didn't when I wrote the comment.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 13:27, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  No, it was.

  the tanker Eagle S, registered to the Cook Islands and part of Russia's shadow fleet...

  The police confirmed that the tanker is suspected of having caused the failure

  NotAGenious (talk) 14:39, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support, although the blurb needs to be updated. A bigger story here is that Finland has seized a Russian tanker suspected of being involved in cutting the cable.[4] Nsk92 (talk) 23:56, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support even on the off-chance it was accidental, still a series incident. –DMartin 01:05, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• I've added an alternative blurb and #Reactions. NotAGenious (talk) 10:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  Notified WT:FINLAND and WT:ESTONIA for further input here. NotAGenious (talk) 18:19, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support ArionStar (talk) 02:32, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

  Per above, do not add votes without giving your reason. Stephen 07:34, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

  It's a major incident with huge coverage and international reactions. ArionStar (talk) 19:10, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support - Unusual international incident that our well-sourced article is being updated on. No tags, though the redlinks are arguably distracting. NATO response is highly notable. Given increasing tensions in the Baltic and the continuing news coverage, this altblurb is a good fit for ITN. Jusdafax (talk) 16:06, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Support - There was a covering of the Baltic Sea Disruptions in current events a few weeks ago. This is also notable due to rising geopolitical tensions. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 19:16, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Important enough in the context of the present cold war between East and West. Tradedia^talk 02:11, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
• Is this stale? The earliest item on ITN is from December 26. Natg 19 (talk) 07:28, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  If we're going with the alternative blurb, it's actually the 26th. If we want a blurb telling about the transfer to Porvoo for investigation, it was yesterday, the 29th. NotAGenious (talk) 12:24, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

RD: Bill Bergey

Article: Bill Bergey (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Economic Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: American football player Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:50, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support, I spotted two CN notes and I feel certain sections could use more references. Article is fine otherwise. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 15:16, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

RD: M. T. Vasudevan Nair

Article: M. T. Vasudevan Nair (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Indian Express BBCThe Indian Express Independent Gulf news Khaleej times
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Renowned Malayalam writer Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:30, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support: Added sources. Pachu Kannan (talk) 19:17, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Obviously a major figure in literature and film. Did a bit of copyediting. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 23:04, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
• Suppport Significant RD, He was an Indian author, screenplay writer and film director Spworld2 (talk) 9:17, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
• Not Ready Certain sections rely entirely on a single source. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 16:32, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  Where? The citing looks fine to me - there are plenty.

  This is already several days old and risks losing currency if not posted soon. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 02:30, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

  Asuravithu, Manju and Kaalam are the major offenders, reusing existing citations inline should be enough to fix. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 14:30, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

  Also oppose blurb since the blurb A) does not mention the subject B) contains WP:Puffery wording. C) subject is not as well known to the average person as a world leader. Comment withdrawn per below. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 14:39, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

• This is an RD candidate and does not need a blurb, someone added one in error. I have removed it. Black Kite (talk) 14:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

• Comment The whole of the Varanasi paragraph was copied verbatim from the source and so I have also removed that; this paragraph is therefore now very short. Black Kite (talk) 14:46, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose The Bibliography section lacks citations (or ISBNs).—Bagumba (talk) 14:57, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243

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Article: Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243 (aircraft pictured) crashes near Aktau, Kazakhstan with 67 people on board. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243 (aircraft pictured) crashes near Aktau, Kazakhstan, killing 39 people.
News source(s): BBC The Guardian Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Tofusaurus (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: A few dozen have been reported dead as a result of the crash. Tofusaurus (talk) 09:08, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support: Recent plane crash with a high number of fatalities is definitely notable and certainly deserves attention. (Although, it would be slightly better if the fatality number is confirmed). However, I Oppose the blurb. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 09:13, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support original blurb until the number of deaths is clarified. A crash of a flag carrier. Brandmeister^talk 09:25, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
• Wait, there's no actual confirmation yet on the number of dead right? Only the number of survivors. Yo.dazo (talk) 09:46, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support - an airliner crashes with significant loss of life. Event is in the news, so eligible here. Mjroots (talk) 09:50, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support 39 deaths MAL MALDIVE (talk) 11:42, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support (by the way, end-of-year season is sadly known due to the increase of transport accidents) ArionStar (talk) 11:43, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support Major aviation and international news. Harizotoh9 (talk) 12:55, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Support Surprised this isn't already up. A significant crash. ElectronicsForDogs (talk) 13:31, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support – This article are notable and the plane crash have several deaths. Rest in peace to the people who died in the plane crash. Bakhos | Let's talk! 13:40, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support: Recent and significant plane crash that has received extensive media coverage. --Sura Shukurlu (talk) 14:37, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support: but WAIT

QalasQalas (talk) 16:45, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support alt blurb which includes the death toll. Johndavies837 (talk) 17:06, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support Video from inside the plane. Count Iblis (talk) 17:14, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
• I feel some blurb that indicates the was a very haphazard emergency landing rather than what is normally envisioned when we say a crash, as to indicate this was not as deadly as it was, would be helpful. Masem (t) 17:39, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

  I don't think 'emergency landing' should be added. The plane crashed nearly 6 kilometers from the runway. So even though it was preparing for an emergency landing, that's not really the reason why it came down at that location. Maybe it could say "near Aqtau International Airport" instead of "near Aktau". Johndavies837 (talk) 18:03, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

• Posted – Schwede66 18:43, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
• Comment – Given the latest developments, the blurb should be changed to reflect that the plane was specifically shot down. Sandvich18 (talk) 19:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

  It's always good to make a specific suggestion, Sandvich18. What would you like the ALT blurb to say? Schwede66 22:56, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

  Change blurb to Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243 is shot down near Aktau, Kazakhstan, killing 38 people. or, if there's no consensus yet on the cause, 38 people die in the Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243 crash near Aktau, Kazakhstan, amid Azerbaijani claims of Russian involvement in the downing of the plane. Sandvich18 (talk) 00:38, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  When did Wikipedia start spreading speculative information? That the aircraft was shot down or that there's Russian involvement in the incident are both hypotheses without sufficient evidence.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:08, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  To be fair everything involving Russia is always "speculative", it's how Russia operates. Abcmaxx (talk) 10:47, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  That's not Wikipedia's business. We should always stick to facts, not speculations.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 13:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  Not only Azerbaijani say that [5][6][7][8][9][10] BilboBeggins (talk) 21:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  All those sources report that there are indications that the aircraft was shot down by Russia’s defensive system, but that’s still in the zone of speculations with no official statements made by any involved party.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 01:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

  Support adding that plane was shot down. BilboBeggins (talk) 21:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support saying shot down. The article indicates that the Azerbaijani government believes the aircraft was shot down, and RS are increasingly saying so. (see the article) 331dot (talk) 18:44, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, it's obvious. But the blurb has to follow the article, where things are still less decided. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:28, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  The article says in the lead "Azerbaijani investigators believed a Russian Pantsir-S1 air-defense system was responsible for the damage" and the article itself states investigators independent of the nations involved have come to that conclusion as well. Seems to me that's as good as we could get. If we don't want to say "shot down" we could at least add "hit by a missile and crashes". 331dot (talk) 09:16, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Putin reportedly had a phone call with Aliyev and applogised for shooting down the aircraft, so I support amending the blurb to reflect this.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 15:01, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
  • My reading of the reporting on that subject is that Putin apologized for the aircraft being shot down, but not conceding shooting it down, i.e., a mistakes were made kind of statement. BD2412 T 19:08, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
    • The point is that now we have some sort of a confirmation that it was shot down.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 20:44, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
• Change to Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243 is allegedly shot down near Aktau, Kazakhstan, killing 38 people. It's under investigation. ArionStar (talk) 03:27, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Note Updated blurb from "crashes" to "is shot down" per discussion above. – robertsky (talk) 09:34, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Note The article infobox does not yet consistently describe the include as a shootdown. Currently we have just "under investigation" again. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:44, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

  "Alleged". ArionStar (talk) 16:55, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

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December 24

Portal:Current events/2024 December 24

December 24, 2024 (2024-12-24) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Syrian civil war Deir ez-Zor offensive, Eastern Syria insurgency Islamic State militants launch attacks on the town of al-Hawayej in northeastern Syria, against Asayish forces. (SOHR) Protests occur after a Christmas tree was set on fire in Al-Suqaylabiyah, Hama Governorate. (The Week) Turkey's interior minister announces that more than 25,000 Syrian refugees have returned to Syria since former president Bashar al-Assad was overthrown by rebels. (Al Arabiya) Syrian opposition factions announce that they will dissolve and merge under the authority of the Ministry of Defense. (Reuters) Haiti crisis Gang war in Haiti Three people are killed by gunmen in Haiti opening fire at the journalists, police and medical staff at the reopening of the Port-au-Prince General Hospital. (BBC News) 2024 Afghanistan–Pakistan skirmishes At least 46 people are killed in a series of airstrikes by the Pakistan Army against alleged Pakistani Taliban hideouts in Paktika Province, Afghanistan. (Al Jazeera) Arts and culture National symbols of the United States U.S. President Joe Biden signs a bill making the bald eagle the official national bird of the United States. (NBC News) Disasters and accidents 2024–25 Australian bushfire season Residents of the Grampians region of Victoria, Australia, evacuate due to bushfires, with more than 41,000 hectares (100,000 acres) already burnt by the bushfires. (BBC News) 2024 Lobitos oil spill Residents of Lobitos and Cabo Blanco, Peru, demonstrate against Peruvian state-owned oil company PetroPerú following an oil spill that contaminated six beaches. (La República) Twelve people are killed and four others are injured in an explosion at an explosives factory in Kavakli, Balıkesir Province, Turkey. (Al Jazeera) The Russian cargo ship MV Ursa Major, allegedly used to evacuate military personnel and equipment from Russian bases in Syria, sinks in the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Spain following an explosion in the ship's engine room. The Russian Foreign Ministry says that 14 of the 16 crew members have been rescued, with the two others missing. (Politico) International relations 2024 Israeli invasion of Lebanon, Syrian civil war Palestinian factions turn over their arms to the Lebanese army and vacate their headquarters. (Middle East Monitor) Denmark–United States relations The Danish government announces an increase in defense spending for Greenland hours after US president-elect Donald Trump repeated his interest in purchasing Greenland, although they affirm that the two are unrelated. (BBC News) Russia–United States relations Gene Spector, an American citizen of Russian descent, is sentenced to 15 years in prison by a Russian court for espionage. (CNN) Law and crime Capital punishment in Saudi Arabia Human rights organization Reprieve reports that Saudi Arabia executed 330 people this year. (First Post) At least 21 people are killed and 25 others are injured in a series of violent incidents in Mozambique following the previous day's confirmation by the high court of Daniel Chapo as the winning presidential candidate in the recent election. (ABC News) Hong Kong offers bounties of HK$1 million (US$128,728) each for six foreign pro-democracy activists accused of violating the national security law, including Tony Chung, and also revokes the passports of seven others, citing actions such as incitement to secession, subversion, and collusion with foreign forces. (Reuters) Five people accused of being Al-Qaeda supporters are arrested in four cities in Italy. (Il Gazzettino) Four participants in the November 2024 Amsterdam riots are sentenced to prison, with 32-year-old Sefa Ö handed the longest sentence of six months. (BBC News) A Belarusian court sentences opposition activist and Green Party leader Dzmitry Kuchuk to six years in prison and fines him approximately US$6,000 for alleged public order violations and calls for actions undermining national security, according to the human rights group Viasna. (AP) Politics and elections Protests against Donald Trump, Panama–United States relations Protesters gather at the U.S. Embassy in Panama City over Trump's threat to take back the Panama Canal. (France24) (DW) Maia Sandu is sworn in for her second four-year term as the President of Moldova. (Euronews) In his Christmas speech, Grand Duke of Luxembourg Henri announces that he will abdicate on 3 October 2025 and hand over the throne to his son, Hereditary Grand Duke Guillaume. (The Brussels Times) ʻAisake Eke is appointed as the new Prime Minister of Tonga. (RNZ) Science and technology NASA large strategic science missions The Parker Solar Probe attempts its closest-ever approach to the Sun to study the sun's temperatures, radiation, and magnetic field. (BBC News)

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RD: Dorthy Moxley

Article: Dorthy Moxley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

• Nominated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American educator and crime victim advocate. TJMSmith (talk) 22:32, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

RD: Joe Average

Article: Joe Average (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CTV News
Credits:

• Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Canadian artist and activist. Ktin (talk) 16:55, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose needs better article organisation and appropriate subsections, at the moment it's just a big block of text furthermore with key information missing. Abcmaxx (talk) 21:19, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Parker Solar Probe

Article: Parker Solar Probe (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Parker Solar Probe (pictured) successfully completes its closest approach to the Sun (Post)
News source(s): DW, Guardian, NYT, Scientific American, BBC, Space
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Andi Fugard (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: We might also mention that it will be travelling at 430,000 miles per hour – a new speed record. But it's stormy as it's a solar maximum... Andrew🐉(talk) 08:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

• Still personally determining on notability, but oppose on quality - a two-sentence update to the lead is not enough to post. The Kip ^(contribs) 09:06, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

  The article is already quite large and detailed but I've added an update about the timing of this perihelion to the body. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

  Support now - article sufficiently updated and other comments have made good cases as to scientific notability. The Kip ^(contribs) 23:31, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support, as notable a solar space mission as you can get without landing. At least so far. Maybe post on the 27th when Parker is scheduled to send back information. Randy Kryn (talk) 09:11, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

  FYI, the perihelion is today (Christmas Eve) around noon UTC. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

  Right, but we won't even know if it has survived the approach until the 27th. Randy Kryn (talk) 09:18, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

  The perihelion is today and it's in the news today. As and when we get further news, we can update the blurb accordingly. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

  I know, and if it were just you and I the blurb would be up already. Thanks for improving the article. Maybe a few others will come by and push this quickly over the finish line. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:17, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

  Not sure how to intervene on this as I'm a new to ITN and don't want to break it :) The BBC cite notes that the temperatures that close will reach 1,400 °C and it will be moving faster than any other human-made object (692,000 kilometers per hour; 430,000 miles per hour). Maybe also something on how it has to act autonomously to ensure it is oriented in such as way that its shields protect it from the solar energy. At that distance from Earth, it would take about 8 minutes for a signal to get there and another 8 for it to be received: too slow for Earth-based control. Andi Fugard [they/them] (talk) 11:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

  FYI, what's wanted mainly here are opinions whether we should post this news on the main page. These should focus mainly on the adequacy of the quality of the article. The blurb wording is open to discussion too and alternatives can be proposed. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:47, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

• This is not an ITNR, it has been in this close orbit of the sun for the last several years, just that this time it will swing closer than any previous time. Masem (t) 13:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

  No, this is not a stable orbit. What's been happening is that it has been making repeated flybys of Venus to pick up speed using gravity assistance. It made its seventh and final flyby of Venus in November and this gave it the speed for this closest approach to the Sun, which goes deep past the Alfvén surface. It is therefore the climax of a long mission and so is effectively the destination as it's downhill from here. And note that, while we posted the launch of the mission in 2018, we haven't posted a destination blurb yet. The mainstream coverage such as this BBC bulletin indicates that this is the time to post as it talks of the event "making history". Andrew🐉(talk) 14:33, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

  This pass by the sun is at 6.9M km, last year it got to 7.3M km, which on the order of magnitude of space, essentially the same. Its clear it reached its final destination, this unstable orbit between the sun and venus, four years or so ago. This is not ITNR, but note I'm not saying that this can't be considered as a normal ITNC candidate due to attention on being it's closest approach. Masem (t) 15:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

  This is wrong. It flies by Venus to slow down. If it slowed to zero it'd then fall straight down starting at 1 mph per dozens of seconds ending at c. 0.1% the speed of light (if it could survive till the visible surface I assume no). If it slowed down a little less than that it does this. Also in 2025 they'll point it at the Sun exposing it to tens of thousands percent sunlight killing everything except the shader in seconds. Especially if it can briefly transmit through that (I don't know) that seems like another interesting time (science fiction like Sunshine (2007 film) becoming science fact). Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 23:23, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

  Good points. The gravity assists from Venus were used to make its orbit more eccentric and this gives the closer approach to the sun and that's when its speed is greater.

  I also wondered what was going to happen to the probe afterwards and so added a paragraph to the article to explain.

  Andrew🐉(talk) 07:57, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

• Wait. Its final flyby is scheduled for June 19, 2025. That seems to be the most appropriate time to post, not the two incidental records being set tomorrow. (Which records, by the way, will not be broken by Parker's remaining flybys.) 128.91.40.237 (talk) 15:34, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
• Wait until the December 27 confirmation. ArionStar (talk) 06:26, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

  I Support now. ArionStar (talk) 13:01, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support It was noteworthy enough for BBC top story status, and it'll be interesting to see if it survived on the 27th. For heliophysics this is a major, decades-long effort, and it won't be so close to the surface of the Sun ever again. ElectronicsForDogs (talk) 13:33, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support, as the sources said it's an important milestone, and it is now in the news. Alexcalamaro (talk) 07:57, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support, an interesting event that's been compared to the Moon landing, and an interesting article as well. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:19, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
• Update It's Dec 27 now and the probe's beacon signal has been received, showing that it has successfully completed its closest pass through the solar corona. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:32, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• How is this ITNR? It's been orbiting the Sun for years. Banedon (talk) 09:36, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  The destination was not to orbit the sun – we're all doing that – but to make this closest approach which was just achieved for the first time. This took it deep inside the solar corona and Alfvén surface so that it could make the observations which were its mission. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:49, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

  Again, its destination was this series of tight orbits around the Sun with some Venus flybys, which it reached 6-some years ago and has been doing since. It was inside the corona and broke the Alfven surface as early as 2021 [11]. That this one orbit reached the closest approach to the sun does not make its destination. — Masem (t) 13:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support - Important achievement for humanity and now in the news. Article well-sourced and informative. Opposers fail to convince that this should not be posted now. Jusdafax (talk) 15:30, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support definitely in the news now and has been confirmed. Meets WP:ITNSIGNIF and WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support. In the news. Important event. Sufficiently updated article.

-insert valid name here- (talk) 18:06, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article in great shape and has been greatly updated. Important scientific news (which is always refreshing to see). --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:48, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 23:44, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

RD or Blurb: Dési Bouterse

Article: Dési Bouterse (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Former military ruler and later president of Suriname, Dési Bouterse (pictured) dies at the age 79 while on the run following his conviction (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Former Suriname's leader and convicted criminal Dési Bouterse (pictured) dies at the age of 79
Alternative blurb II: ​ Former military ruler and later president of Suriname, Dési Bouterse (pictured) dies at the age of 79
News source(s): NLTimes, AP News
Credits:

• Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:41AE:341:4940:BDA3 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former president of Suriname. 240F:7A:6253:1:41AE:341:4940:BDA3 (talk) 03:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose huge amount of content is unsourced. And reading his role as dictator and later president, and convicted for several crimes, a blurb is suggestive. _-_Alsor (talk) 12:38, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
• Not ready, article currently lacks citations for several sections, I also agree with Alsor above to blurb. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 19:32, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

  Comment Added Altblurb2. 31.44.227.152 (talk) 19:01, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

• Comment, I definitely agree with the above regarding a blurb. Ornithoptera (talk) 22:39, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support when ready, given that we had Manmohan Singh posted as a blurb I don't see why not, aside from the problem that the others mentioned regarding unsourced content. Mr. Lechkar (talk) 00:21, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb Zero indication of why he was a major/key figure; notorious due to his convictions, but there's no sourcing or significant discussion to indicate what impact he had on the country or international politics (as there was for Singh). And Oppose RD due to numerous sourcing tag issues. --Masem (t) 13:44, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality Article needs to be fixed up before it could even be posted to RD. Would support blurb due to his convictions and crimes committed. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:44, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality but Support blurb per TDKR. The Kip ^(contribs) 22:04, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb seems like the prequisite edits have been made, it's sourced and blurbable per above. Ornithoptera (talk) 23:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Stale for blurb as the oldest ITN item is from 26 December. The RD discussion can continue. Schwede66 06:55, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

RD: George Petak

Article: George Petak (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): USA Today
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American Republican politician Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:59, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article is in good shape. Yakikaki (talk) 20:03, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: Close, but "Electoral history" section needs references. Spencer^T•C 04:09, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Richard Perry

Article: Richard Perry (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:

• Nominated by TheCorriynial (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article needs help, but it was announced today that Richard Perry had died. He was best known for his work as a producer for artists like Carly Simon (No Secrets and "You're So Vain"), Ringo Starr (Ringo (album) and "Photograph (Ringo Starr song)" and "You're Sixteen") and along with owning Planet Records, launching The Pointer Sisters with "Fire (Bruce Springsteen song)", "Neutron Dance", "I'm So Excited", "Slow Hand" and "Jump (For My Love)". He also had other credits with many other artists. TheCorriynial (talk) 02:28, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Appropriate depth of coverage, fully referenced. Spencer^T•C 04:10, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 04:36, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

December 23

Portal:Current events/2024 December 23

December 23, 2024 (2024-12-23) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Somali Civil War Constitutional crisis in Somalia Jubaland crisis Violent clashes occur between the Ethiopia-backed Jubaland forces and the Somali Armed Forces in Dolow, Gedo Region, Somalia, with Jubaland forces later taking control of the town. (Garowe Online) (Hiiraan Online) The mayor of Badhadhe District, Lower Juba, Hassan Nuur Cabdi, survives an ambush attack which killed at least five of his security personnel. (Idil News) (Hiiraan Online) Syrian civil war Operation Dawn of Freedom Manbij offensive The pro-Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces launch a counter-offensive on recently captured pro-Turkish faction positions in Manbij, Aleppo Governorate, Syria, and recapture several villages. (SOHR) Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi meets with de facto Syrian leader Ahmed al-Sharaa in Damascus to discuss the support of the Syrian transitional government. (Al Jazeera) Haitian crisis Gang war in Haiti 2024 Cité Soleil massacre The death toll from the mass killing by a gang in Cité Soleil, Port-au-Prince, Haiti, increases to 207, according to the United Nations. (Al Jazeera) Israel–Hamas war Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh For the first time, Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz claims responsibility for the July 2024 assassination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, Iran. (Reuters) Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip, Attacks on protected zones and civilians in Gaza At least seven people are killed in Israeli airstrikes on a safe zone in al-Mawasi, Gaza. Several other attacks across the Gaza Strip kill at least 43 others. (Al Jazeera) Mexican drug war Seventeen people are killed in a string of attacks over the past 48 hours across the state of Guanajuato, Mexico. (El País) Business and economy Student loans in the United States, Economic policy of the Joe Biden administration The Biden administration officially withdraws two major legislative plans that would have granted student loan forgiveness to more than 30 million Americans. (Forbes) (CNBC) Japanese automakers Nissan and Honda announce plans to for a merger by 2026, potentially forming the third-largest automotive company in the world. (Al Jazeera) (Nikkei Asia) Disasters and accidents 2024 famine in Sudan The Government of Sudan suspends participation in the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification hunger monitoring system, in advance of a new report about famine occurring in the nation. (Reuters) In Italy, three people are killed and another is injured in severe storms in Rome, while two others are killed on the Gran Sasso d'Italia massif. (Roma Today) (Il Messaggero) The Santa Cruz Wharf of Santa Cruz, California, United States, partially collapses from high waves of a Pacific storm. (BBC News) International relations Panama–United States relations Panamanian President José Raúl Mulino rebuffs U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's recent threat to reimpose U.S. control over the Panama Canal, saying its shipping tolls aren't inflated and that Panamanian sovereignty over the waterway isn't negotiable. (Bloomberg) Law and crime 2024 New York City Subway immolation A man is arrested after fatally burning a woman yesterday on a Subway train in New York City, United States. (Al Jazeera) Capital punishment by the United States federal government U.S. President Joe Biden commutes the death sentences of 37 out of the 44 federal death row inmates to life imprisonment. The exceptions are Dylann Roof, Robert Gregory Bowers, and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who received death sentences for terrorism or hate-motivated mass murder-related crimes, as well as all four prisoners on US Military death row. (CBS News) Minas Gerais road crash The suspected truck driver that caused a multiple-vehicle collision and killed at least 41 people in Teófilo Otoni, Minas Gerais, Brazil, turns himself in to local authorities. (R7) (G1) 2024 Changde car attack The perpetrator of a car attack in November is sentenced to death by Chinese authorities. (Xinhua) A man is arrested and charged with animal cruelty for shooting and killing 98 kangaroos on a military base in Singleton, New South Wales, Australia. (news.com.au) Guatemalan police rescue at least 160 children and 40 women held by the Lev Tahor Jewish sect and accuse the group of child sexual abuse, forced marriage, and human trafficking. Members of Lev Tahor broke into the care center in Oratorio, Santa Rosa Department, where the children were being held on Sunday. (Al Jazeera) (The Times of Israel) (The Independent) Politics and elections Second presidency of Donald Trump The United States House Committee on Ethics releases a report on former Florida representative and Attorney General nominee Matt Gaetz, revealing that Gaetz paid women for sexual activity, committed statutory rape with a 17-year-old, possessed and used illegal drugs, accepted financial gifts beyond House limits, and assisted a woman in obtaining a passport. (BBC News) Joel Greenberg, a former IRS employee of Florida is sentenced to 11 years in prison on 6 federal charges for underage sex trafficking, wire fraud, stalking, identity theft, producing a fake ID card, and conspiring to defraud the US federal government, receiving a reduced sentence after testifying against eight other men including Gaetz, after initially facing 33 federal charges. (CNN) 2024 French political crisis Following the collapse of the Barnier government, French President Emmanuel Macron announces a new center-right, minority coalition Government led by François Bayrou as new Prime Minister. (DW) 2024 Romanian parliamentary election Following the December 1 parliamentary elections, President Klaus Iohannis asks incumbent Prime Minister Marcel Ciolacu to form a new majority coalition cabinet, comprising the PSD, PNL and UDMR parties. The government is named and confirmed by the Chamber of Deputies, and takes office the same day. (France 24) The Greek government restores citizenship to 10 members of the former royal family, including the children and grandchildren of King Constantine II, following their agreement to adopt the surname "De Grece", renounce royal claims, and formally recognize Greece's status as a parliamentary democracy. (AP) Science and technology A team of scientists at the North-Eastern Federal University in Sakha Republic, Russia, unveil the highly preserved remains of a 50,000-year-old female juvenile woolly mammoth named Yana. The researchers say Yana was roughly about one-year-old when she died, likely from drowning, and was discovered in the Batagaika crater by locals. (BBC News)

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(needs attention) RD: Helmut Schlesinger

Article: Helmut Schlesinger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hessenschau
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Centenarian, president of the German Central Bank, influential thinking for the EU and European organisations. He had just a stub, it's better now, and there is more in the sources. Obits came from 27 December, but perhaps we can expand further in teamwork? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support 299 words, this is enough. Grimes2 (talk) 13:46, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
• @Admins willing to post ITN: Ready. Please also take care of the following RD candidate. Thanks. Grimes2 (talk) 15:51, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

[Ready?] RD: Michael Burkard

Article: Michael Burkard (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Academy of American Poets; Nightboat.org
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Trauma Novitiate (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Grimes2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article is Start class, but it is well-cited and sourced and updated. It meets the minimum BLP requirements and is Ready to post on ITN, imo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trauma Novitiate (talk • contribs)

• No, the article is still a stub; please note the stub tag. I've changed the rating accordingly. We don't post stubs, hence the bio needs to be expanded. Schwede66 22:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
• Comment In my opinion, it is now Start Class. I’d be grateful if an Editor would look it over and mark it as Start Class. Thanks. Trauma Novitiate (talk) 11:13, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
  • I'd be more supportive if there are 300+ words of prose. 200 words is too stubby. When and where was he born and raised? What did he do to earn the awards listed after the prose? --PFHLai (talk) 03:08, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

    Thank you, that’s good feedback! I’ll try to get more prose in there, and then I’ll get back to you for more oversight. Much appreciated. Trauma Novitiate (talk) 10:28, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

    I expanded the article with prose discussing his critical reception. I believe this moves the article from Stub class to Start class. If that’s the case, it just needs another editor to sign of on this. If so, I believe this will provide the opportunity for this RD to be posted to ITN before the deadline runs out today. Thank you to those editors who can help get this process to advance forward. Thank you! Trauma Novitiate (talk) 15:02, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support The article is acceptable. Grimes2 (talk) 15:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

  Thank you for your careful attention. Much appreciated for your quality updates to ensure this article is above a Stub class and justifies being post to ITN. Trauma Novitiate (talk) 16:54, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

RD: Sophie Hediger

Article: Sophie Hediger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Abcmaxx (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article currently a stub, needs major expansion. Abcmaxx (talk) 15:29, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

• With only 103 words of prose, this wikibio is too stubby for use on ITN. Please expand it. --PFHLai (talk) 02:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

RD: Shyam Benegal

Article: Shyam Benegal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Economic Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Pachu Kannan (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Indian filmmaker. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 14:42, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Support: Article is in good shape. Deserves attention. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 18:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article is lengthy and well sourced TheHiddenCity (talk) 23:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
• Comment. I have tagged the article with tags. Tagging Pharaoh of the Wizards and Pachu Kannan to see if they can fill some of those tags in preparation for homepage. Ktin (talk) 00:50, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

  Done. Pachu Kannan (talk) 04:54, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

• The Awards and nominations section needs more sourcing done. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 02:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

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